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(Brandon)This is so cool!
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1) Atlantis city is surrounded by agriculture fields that supply food to the city center. Fields have access canals between and are submerged to different depths depending on the food grown there. (ex: the rice fields are partly submerged in the freshwater canals).
  
The story is going to the publishers as soon as I get it at least 250 pages long, or less depending on font size.
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2) According to Plato, Poseidon received Atlantis as his share of the world. The island had tall cliffs that rose from the sea and the lands were rich and fertile. Every six years the king, his council, and the judges met in the temple of poseidon to discuss matters of great importance.
What size do authors usually use? I am using size 12 right now.
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You and I will both need to check it over a couple times to see if it is worthy, and I will make copies to give to other adults I know to see if they have any suggestions, and I will give you some to give out too.
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3) Noah's Ark is an Atlantian ship that survived the comet and carried animals and people to safety.
  
I can't wait until it's accepted, even if it takes a thousand tries, I won't give up (maybe at 10001)
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4) City of Jericho is surviving Atlantian town that had been rebuilt by Atlantian survivors. Atlantian survivors moved to Egypt, Crete, Thera, England, Canaan, etc.
  
In the meantime, just put any of your awesomest ideas here so we can both read them, and make suggestions
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5) Armadillo Mk. III, IV, and V have jet-ports wired to hardened points on the armor. These jets can assist the user's jumping height and distance, as well as cushion a landing, angle the direction of descent from a parachute, etc. The jets also can function to propel the user through and under water, and through space (Full-Helmet and vacuum-sealed joints required for space combat)
  
(Will)Hi!!
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6) Military uses V-22 Ospreys as main assault transport. Armament includes two pod-mounted swiveling 40mm nose cannon, a .50 cal repeater chin gun, and two pods of 4 rockets each.
  
I have a concern. Completely mind-blowingly awesome as all your action scenes are,i am afraid that we need some sort of plot. It might explain how Matt and Tom met in the first place or there might be some sort personal-life sort of thing about Tom. For instance, Tom might be Holly's boyfriend and they might have met before they were recruited to Atlantis. What were Tom, Matt, Holly, and Scarlett's lives like before Atlantis? Should that be included in chapter two: Flashbacks? For some reason just the whole "I'm Tom and here i am in all these awesome action scenes with an assault rifle on the island of atlantis and yay, look! There's matt, my best friend. Lets go fight! For some reason i know holly and scarlet who are at the head of an elite squadron..." you get my point: we need a plot!!!!!
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7) XV-22 Ospreys (Spec-Ops) can be converted into mobile outposts for 20 soldiers, with two ARMs and a CGT plus extra equipment. Multiple Ospreys can be linked together to form a fully operational base. The more, the merrier. XV-22 Ospreys also equipped with an anti-material railgun in place of .50 cal chin gun.
  
(Brandon)Yes, your absolutley right. I think we should do like we discussed on the phone, and have them meet at school, when Matt realizes about Tom, etc, huge action scene, etc, then they meet Scarlett via Holly in a government 'camp'.
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8) Military designs sonic scramblers that repel dinosaurs or animals with a wave of extremely intense sonic frequencies. Scramblers installed in bases, V-22s, and most vehicles. Also has a sonar counterpart for use in water. Note that the scramblers do not kill or injure dinos, only irritate and repel. A determined or trained dinosaur can still attack, and frequencies are too high for all humans to hear, except for Echo and Orca squads.
  
(Will)Also, on another random note, instead of the atlantis escapade, book 1,2, and 3 how about (for the title)
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9) Military uses packs of "Performance-Enhancing-Liquid" that functions as a combination painkiller, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, accelerated regenerative agent, similar to Fallout 3's "Stimpacks." Packs are injected through armor ports directly into the afflicted areas.
  
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10) Marine Shock Forces defend NYC in one chapter. They set up CGTs in intersections, use subway for troop transportation, Sniper and MG nests on roofs. They use hotels as bases, hotwire cars abandoned on the street, set up floating mines and air patrols in rivers and harbor, blow bridges and set razor wire on beaches.
  
The Atlantis Escapade: Part I
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11) Europe unifies into he United States of Europe and has their own president, etc. UK not included in USE, but allied with USA.
  
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12) Atlantis Rising: Perfect War: Similar to Bioshock, main character is part of a Spec-Ops team transporting Putty material to USA safehouse/Research lab when they are shot down over Atlantian rain forest. Player starts out with MP7 SMG and Magnum, teams up with other survivors, finds helmet, and links up with survivors at the actual crash site (Player is sucked out the back without weapon or helmet and backup comm is busted.) The survivors use Putty to genetically enhance themselves and survive and get back to the nearest Allied outpost.
  
The Atlantis Conspiracy: Part II
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13) Armadillo Recon Armor has insulated gauntlets that can send an electric pulse to stun and incapacitate enemies.
  
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14) China, Japan, and North Korea combine to form the Eastern Confederation, joined by the Pacific island countries around Japan.
  
The Atlantis Ultimatum: Part III
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15) Atlantis City is surrounded by agriculture fields that supply food to the city center. Fields have access canals between them and are submerged to different depths, depending on the type of food grown there.
  
Oh, and by the way also, i finished the front cover illustration!
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16) Standard infantry equipped with Mk. III, IV, or V Croc Tactical Battle Armor (Depending on the year of battle). Croc armor is comprised of an outer bullet-proof shell with Static-Impact-Gel layered in the middle that converts kinetic energy to thermal. Helmet includes integrated HUD, FOF, GUSS, comm. system, armor- and bio-stat monitors, climate conditioning system. Armor is powered by a fusion cell. Armaments include an M8 carbine, and MP7 SMG, and an HK Magunm that fires semi-explosive 12.7mm slugs, ideal for light armor and dinosaurs.
  
(Brandon) Good idea, and I love the Ultimatum part. Good job on the cover, and we'll fix the motorcycle when you come back.
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17) USA and Allies take over the ISS and install a compartment built to house up to 90 marines, known as Orbital Drop Marines or Devil Droppers. The ODMs are highly skilled and trained and can land anywhere on Earth within an hours.
  
(Will)New idea. Again, another minor one.
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18) Putty is a substance of raw stem cells that can be surgically altered and grafted to soldiers in order to heal various injuries and biologically augment their bodies.  
  
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19) USA helmet armor has increased gel padding and increased armor thickness in brow plate, sides, and back in order to protect against cranial trauma.
  
What about Holly carries a H&K XM8 and a FN P90 (search for google images if unfamiliar w/ the p90) as well as two knives in her pockets? Maybe, if we wanted to push it, we could give her some sort of 12 gauge shotgun too and a Glock 20
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20) DGTs - Defensive Guard Towers. Can be crewed by up to 12 infantry, used in conjunction with Metal Storms, bunkers, trenches, and sensor arrays to secure small camp perimeters. Larger firebases have solid concrete-and-steel walls installed at perimeter, with bunkers on top and Metal Storms and 105mm and 40mm cannon installed directly into the walls.
  
(Brandon) Good idea, and as we said, scratch the Glock, give her a Pancor Jackhammer, possibly two P90s, and a heavy machine gun version of the XM8.
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21) USA soldiers undergo varied biomechanical and chemical surgical correction upon induction via the grafting of raw stem cells. Surgery is used to completely heal all new recruits of all illnesses and physical damage, boost the soldier's immune system, correct the spinal column, as well as regrow lost cartilage and repair crucial bodily structures such as the knees, neck, feet, shoulders, etc. Also increases the strength of all organs, tissues, bones, and overall body. Select soldiers also receive extended enhancement to boost seeing hearing, etc.  
  
(Will)As for Scarlet, what about she carries some sort of sniper rifle (i dont know many names of them), grenades, a knuckle knife, a beretta pistol(sorry, handgun, whatever), and either an uzi or an MP5k
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22) Atlantian soldiers equipped with .57 cal 7-shot revolving rifles as base firearm. To break down doors, crack ships, etc, they use a 7-barreled semi-explosive volley gun firing 12.9mm rounds. Infantry also equipped with a 10-inch bayonet, a standard legionary double-edged straight sword, a 12-shot revolver pistol, and 2 flasks of Greek Fire.
let me know as soon as you can!!
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(Brandon)go with the MP5k, and like we said, the WA2000 or whatever.
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23) After first beach-landing battle scene, the US adopts new technology and equipment: More extensive base-camp defenses (See #20) and 7.62mm MGs and 40mm repeating cannon linked to sensor arrays scattered throughout jungle. Also use new M8's fitted with integrated bayonets, and XM350 dual-shot 40mm grenade launchers, enhanced and thicker armor plating with larger gel bladders to better protect against melee weaponry, and infantry given titanium composite sabers, maces, spears, axes, etc.  
  
(Will)Also, to keep you getting more and more also's, until they never end, i'd like to know what other illustrations you'd like me to do.
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24) Atlantians use winged gliders that they can attach to their armor, akin to angels' wings. Atlantian aircraft use rocket-powered propulsion, and their diving suits were mistook by early humans for aliens.  
  
(Brandon) To recap (we've already discussed this mostly), the SWAT guy getting out of the SWAT truck, and how about Illustrations of all the guns we use in the story? We could even put little captions underneath telling the statistics, who uses them in the story, stuff like that. Another really helpful thing would be drawings of Dinosaurs (you saw my Ankylosaurus).
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25) Nazca desert was Atlantian's priority raw-material site outside of mainland Atlantis, as Nazca desert has concentrated quantities of many raw materials. Nazca pathways - airfield for Atlantian aircraft.
  
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26) Egyptian, Babylonian, Mayan, etc pyramids all built with Atlantian help in order to store knowledge and to house king's tombs and for defense.
  
(Will)I finally came up with another name for telescape. What about Atlantis: the game?
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27) Earth destroyed 4 times - Water: Noah's flood. Ice: Ice Age. Fire: Thera Eruption. Air: Yucatan ash cloud.
(Brandon) Sure thats fine. I like it.
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(Will)What should chapter 1 in The Atlantis Conspiracy be about?
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28) Atlantians used "Baghdad Batteries" powered by concentrated electrolytes in order to power lightbulbs, ancient computers, etc. Also invented astrogation device, where navigator could input the location of stars in order to determine latitude and longitude (Antikythera Mechanism).
  
How about tom and matt are together, doing something, when they get the message that Holly and Scarlet's squad has gone missing?
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29) Stonehenge's circles align with planetary orbitation around the sun. USA has glider packs that can be fitted into standard armor thruster pack. Glider packs have wings with several fuel tanks for extended jet-powered flight.
  
The only question is, what are tom and matt going to be doing before they get the message?
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30) Atlantians invent Da Vinci's 33 barreled organ gun for base defense, and use his tri-barrel cannon in his armored car invention. Atlantians also use his under-water breathing apparatus with the modification of the tubes being connected to a compressed air tank on the diver's back.
(Brandon) sitting back and eating potato chips in the Living quaters (LQ)
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(Will)Then chapter two through chapter four will be tom and matt following where holly's squad went, getting captured and using kenesis powers to free themselves of the prison.
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31) Atlantian APC aerial screw helicopter can lift 8 men and uses steam generated from the hot coals in the base of the machine to turn an axle, which is increased in force by a complex  gearing system. The axle turns the screw, generating lift. Additional gears allow passengers to pedal, increasing lift at takeoff and landing. Helicopter can fly for up to an hour before water supply has to be refilled.
 
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I might need some help (urgent) on the action scenes so far, because currently they are pretty dumb.
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I know you wont be able to respond for about the next week, so i wont be expecting anything for a while.
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And, with my help, of course, we need to aim for each book more about 500 pages, because, since it's a trilogy, not a neverending series, the books need to be fairly long.
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I've started to try my hand at illustrating some of the American soldiers. Do you want them to have the same helmet as Tom?
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(Brandon) No on the helmet, have them have a full helmet (covers their face), and the face part have Infared goggles, and below it, instead of an opening for a mask, have them have sort of gas masks, but mini ones, not huge ones like in Madness Interactive (video game), sort of like the rebreathers in Star Wars.
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(Will)I just got an idea for the covers of book 2 and 3. For book two, what about it shows Dr. Shang with a murderous look in his eyes, katanas and glocks and such ready to kill. In a fade-ish background, it would show Holly and Scarlet with handcuffs or something. As for the cover of book 3, it would show Tom closest to you, with Matt, Holly and Scarlett right behind him but still completely visible (you know what i mean; sort of like the cover of the Eragon movie). Then, again in a fade-ish background, there would be the Queen T-Rex roaring. Like the idea?
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(Brandon) Yeah I know exactly what you mean, and I love the idea.
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I got an idea for the plot of the third book. The head honcho for the bad guys (whether that's the Queen T-Rex or some other guy) tells Tom's army in a negotiation that they have a choice- either surrender to the bad guys and meet no harm or die; the bad guys' army is constantly growing and is far from low on reinforcements. The bad guys (sorry, i dont know wat else to call them) decided to make this proposition in a council meeting. That would be why it's called the Atlantis Ultimatum: because Ultimatum means "a final decision"- well, sort of.
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(Brandon) Yeah, except the 'good guys' refuse, instead choosing to fight. That will be the main part of the story, where Tom and the gang go and prove their worth to Queen Rex by single handedly capturing every enemy base except the main one, which is the most heavily defended, and so they go to all the other countries for support, almost everyone accepts, and they are about to attack, when Tom is gravely injured in a sneak attack, and Matt takes him to the Guru while Scarlett and Holly defend the newly captured bases. Their Tom learns new powers (yet to be thought of), and learns the only way (which is special) to defeat Queen Rex.
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P.S. Remember to check the entire page each time you log on, because I like to respond to questions, etc, right under them, so just check the whole thing.
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(Will) i guess u misunderstood me. i meant that the queen rex and her main most highly ranked followers would have a meeting and decide the whole ultimatum deal. (ya know, like you have to surrender or die and all that). then, they would confront tom and gang and tell them, and then everything else will be like you said. obviously they would refuse; i never would suggest that tom would give in.
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(will)i finished the first sketch of the matt picture. im at the beach and there is bad internet connection; this is the first time i've been able to use the internet. anyway, about the matt picture, it shows most of his torso. it only shows about half of his body, but i'm sure ill do more matt illustrations anyway. it's not colored yet,  but i couldn't bring my art kit, so it wont be colored for a while. it may be a while before i respond again (soooo sorry), so i'll try to get in all i can for now. i found the coolest weapon in my weapons book, although we probably wont use it in our books because it was only used in the 1500's. It's a carbine shotgun with a halberd on the gun barrel and a small butt so it is relatively the same shape as a halberd. there are a bunch of weapons like that and they are awesome.
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(will)what about in addition to everything else matt has a usas 12?
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(will) i made some plans for atlantis the game. i made a list of all of the types of troopers and heroes on both sides and all of their weapons and attacks (like in battlefront 2)
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(will) it'll be a miracle if i can respond again, but always be hopeful, 'cause i might. see ya!
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Latest revision as of 10:31, 31 October 2009

1) Atlantis city is surrounded by agriculture fields that supply food to the city center. Fields have access canals between and are submerged to different depths depending on the food grown there. (ex: the rice fields are partly submerged in the freshwater canals).

2) According to Plato, Poseidon received Atlantis as his share of the world. The island had tall cliffs that rose from the sea and the lands were rich and fertile. Every six years the king, his council, and the judges met in the temple of poseidon to discuss matters of great importance.

3) Noah's Ark is an Atlantian ship that survived the comet and carried animals and people to safety.

4) City of Jericho is surviving Atlantian town that had been rebuilt by Atlantian survivors. Atlantian survivors moved to Egypt, Crete, Thera, England, Canaan, etc.

5) Armadillo Mk. III, IV, and V have jet-ports wired to hardened points on the armor. These jets can assist the user's jumping height and distance, as well as cushion a landing, angle the direction of descent from a parachute, etc. The jets also can function to propel the user through and under water, and through space (Full-Helmet and vacuum-sealed joints required for space combat)

6) Military uses V-22 Ospreys as main assault transport. Armament includes two pod-mounted swiveling 40mm nose cannon, a .50 cal repeater chin gun, and two pods of 4 rockets each.

7) XV-22 Ospreys (Spec-Ops) can be converted into mobile outposts for 20 soldiers, with two ARMs and a CGT plus extra equipment. Multiple Ospreys can be linked together to form a fully operational base. The more, the merrier. XV-22 Ospreys also equipped with an anti-material railgun in place of .50 cal chin gun.

8) Military designs sonic scramblers that repel dinosaurs or animals with a wave of extremely intense sonic frequencies. Scramblers installed in bases, V-22s, and most vehicles. Also has a sonar counterpart for use in water. Note that the scramblers do not kill or injure dinos, only irritate and repel. A determined or trained dinosaur can still attack, and frequencies are too high for all humans to hear, except for Echo and Orca squads.

9) Military uses packs of "Performance-Enhancing-Liquid" that functions as a combination painkiller, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, accelerated regenerative agent, similar to Fallout 3's "Stimpacks." Packs are injected through armor ports directly into the afflicted areas.

10) Marine Shock Forces defend NYC in one chapter. They set up CGTs in intersections, use subway for troop transportation, Sniper and MG nests on roofs. They use hotels as bases, hotwire cars abandoned on the street, set up floating mines and air patrols in rivers and harbor, blow bridges and set razor wire on beaches.

11) Europe unifies into he United States of Europe and has their own president, etc. UK not included in USE, but allied with USA.

12) Atlantis Rising: Perfect War: Similar to Bioshock, main character is part of a Spec-Ops team transporting Putty material to USA safehouse/Research lab when they are shot down over Atlantian rain forest. Player starts out with MP7 SMG and Magnum, teams up with other survivors, finds helmet, and links up with survivors at the actual crash site (Player is sucked out the back without weapon or helmet and backup comm is busted.) The survivors use Putty to genetically enhance themselves and survive and get back to the nearest Allied outpost.

13) Armadillo Recon Armor has insulated gauntlets that can send an electric pulse to stun and incapacitate enemies.

14) China, Japan, and North Korea combine to form the Eastern Confederation, joined by the Pacific island countries around Japan.

15) Atlantis City is surrounded by agriculture fields that supply food to the city center. Fields have access canals between them and are submerged to different depths, depending on the type of food grown there.

16) Standard infantry equipped with Mk. III, IV, or V Croc Tactical Battle Armor (Depending on the year of battle). Croc armor is comprised of an outer bullet-proof shell with Static-Impact-Gel layered in the middle that converts kinetic energy to thermal. Helmet includes integrated HUD, FOF, GUSS, comm. system, armor- and bio-stat monitors, climate conditioning system. Armor is powered by a fusion cell. Armaments include an M8 carbine, and MP7 SMG, and an HK Magunm that fires semi-explosive 12.7mm slugs, ideal for light armor and dinosaurs.

17) USA and Allies take over the ISS and install a compartment built to house up to 90 marines, known as Orbital Drop Marines or Devil Droppers. The ODMs are highly skilled and trained and can land anywhere on Earth within an hours.

18) Putty is a substance of raw stem cells that can be surgically altered and grafted to soldiers in order to heal various injuries and biologically augment their bodies.

19) USA helmet armor has increased gel padding and increased armor thickness in brow plate, sides, and back in order to protect against cranial trauma.

20) DGTs - Defensive Guard Towers. Can be crewed by up to 12 infantry, used in conjunction with Metal Storms, bunkers, trenches, and sensor arrays to secure small camp perimeters. Larger firebases have solid concrete-and-steel walls installed at perimeter, with bunkers on top and Metal Storms and 105mm and 40mm cannon installed directly into the walls.

21) USA soldiers undergo varied biomechanical and chemical surgical correction upon induction via the grafting of raw stem cells. Surgery is used to completely heal all new recruits of all illnesses and physical damage, boost the soldier's immune system, correct the spinal column, as well as regrow lost cartilage and repair crucial bodily structures such as the knees, neck, feet, shoulders, etc. Also increases the strength of all organs, tissues, bones, and overall body. Select soldiers also receive extended enhancement to boost seeing hearing, etc.

22) Atlantian soldiers equipped with .57 cal 7-shot revolving rifles as base firearm. To break down doors, crack ships, etc, they use a 7-barreled semi-explosive volley gun firing 12.9mm rounds. Infantry also equipped with a 10-inch bayonet, a standard legionary double-edged straight sword, a 12-shot revolver pistol, and 2 flasks of Greek Fire.

23) After first beach-landing battle scene, the US adopts new technology and equipment: More extensive base-camp defenses (See #20) and 7.62mm MGs and 40mm repeating cannon linked to sensor arrays scattered throughout jungle. Also use new M8's fitted with integrated bayonets, and XM350 dual-shot 40mm grenade launchers, enhanced and thicker armor plating with larger gel bladders to better protect against melee weaponry, and infantry given titanium composite sabers, maces, spears, axes, etc.

24) Atlantians use winged gliders that they can attach to their armor, akin to angels' wings. Atlantian aircraft use rocket-powered propulsion, and their diving suits were mistook by early humans for aliens.

25) Nazca desert was Atlantian's priority raw-material site outside of mainland Atlantis, as Nazca desert has concentrated quantities of many raw materials. Nazca pathways - airfield for Atlantian aircraft.

26) Egyptian, Babylonian, Mayan, etc pyramids all built with Atlantian help in order to store knowledge and to house king's tombs and for defense.

27) Earth destroyed 4 times - Water: Noah's flood. Ice: Ice Age. Fire: Thera Eruption. Air: Yucatan ash cloud.

28) Atlantians used "Baghdad Batteries" powered by concentrated electrolytes in order to power lightbulbs, ancient computers, etc. Also invented astrogation device, where navigator could input the location of stars in order to determine latitude and longitude (Antikythera Mechanism).

29) Stonehenge's circles align with planetary orbitation around the sun. USA has glider packs that can be fitted into standard armor thruster pack. Glider packs have wings with several fuel tanks for extended jet-powered flight.

30) Atlantians invent Da Vinci's 33 barreled organ gun for base defense, and use his tri-barrel cannon in his armored car invention. Atlantians also use his under-water breathing apparatus with the modification of the tubes being connected to a compressed air tank on the diver's back.

31) Atlantian APC aerial screw helicopter can lift 8 men and uses steam generated from the hot coals in the base of the machine to turn an axle, which is increased in force by a complex gearing system. The axle turns the screw, generating lift. Additional gears allow passengers to pedal, increasing lift at takeoff and landing. Helicopter can fly for up to an hour before water supply has to be refilled.

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